You know what? HC is exactly right!! I'm sitting here reading these post's thinking how cold (24F) it is, and how windy it is(15-25mph), and telling myself I'll go out tomorrow when it'll be much better conditions. I'm outof here. I'm going to take my CB (please, no crap) and kill mea doe (need the meat). That's all that's open until after Christmas anyway. I'll let you know what I see after I get back.