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Old 12-17-2008 | 01:14 PM
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sproulman
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Default RE: 245 grain vs 295 grain bullets?

ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman

ORIGINAL: Steve863

So exactly what is the big deal if the powerbelt fragments a bit with two 50 grain pellets? Lots of other type bullets may fragment also yet will KILL the deer. Any bullet I have ever recovered had some sort of fragmentation in fact. If the brunt of a 245 or 295 grain bullet will be passing through the deer's vitals even with some fragmentation I can't see the deer going very far.
True, however a bullet that holds together without fragmentation will drive deeper and shoot thru providing excellent blood trail. Also if you shoot shoulder shots to anchor the deer, no problem, since the bullet will generall shoot thru two shoulders and be DRT (dead right there). Really it come down to shooting philosophy and experience, personally I like very accurate bullets, expanding to 2x the diameter, shooting thru the deer and nearly 100% weight retention. Nobody said that PB don't kill, I know they do, however there are more chances for not recoving the deer with a PB. I really don't want to go into a PB war again (I am against that particular bullet), I have shot them and I don't like them or recommend them for inlines (I would shoot them with FL or percussion at 60 to 80 g and I may in my CVA percussion), if ya wanna know why I don't like them see here:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/powerbelt_page.htm

There are MANY defenders of PBs, I don't wanna get into a war of words with you all--you know my positiion on them if you have been on this forum very long. I just want a new MLing people to think about their bullet choice. STRONG non fragmenting bullets are best for all hunting situations and distances in my opinion, why? I would encourage you to read the book "Rifle Bullets for the Hunter, A Definitive Study" by Richard Mann and a host of others to make up your own mind.The MLing chapter was written by Bryce Towsley, Am Hunter MLing editor. Excellent read:

http://www.riflebullets.net/

Great Christmas gift for anyone who hunts.

If you follow the evolution of a man like Towsley (He wrote about the Benoits of Maine back in the 70's) and see what he uses NOW, then you will understand why a STRONG expanding bullet is required to sometimes kill big bucks, honestly nearly anything will kill a bow shot on a small doe or small buck.



Chap



very well said and nothing i could add other than I LIKE PB VERY MUCH IN MY HAWKINS .50 CAL FLINTLOCK WITH 80 GRS OF 2F.more than that, i would never use hollow point bullet on deer.


in a in-line ,NO WAY I WOULD USE THE HOLLOW POINT PB.

25 years ago we got idea to use 90 gr hollow point bullets in our 250-3000 sav rifles on deer.

we wounded so many deer we threw those bullets away.

why, because we were pushing those bullets at 3,000fps.

speed and hollow point bullet is awful thing.[:@]
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