OntElk took the exact words out of my mouth! Well put buddy! Scenario 2 has happened to me more times than I care to remember but going dead silent just drives them nuts! You have to be well disciplined not to call back to him when he's letting out those desperation gobbles. If you remain quiet he will either give in and come into the woods with you or he will slip off which is not a bad thing either. This will give you a chance to get a better set-up on him.