RE: I never see anyone on the forums talk about these
Used them for my 2004 season a few times HCH.
And when I say few.. I mean like twice.
I got over-tired and sweaty in seconds after putting up 20 of them for one set. That sucked.
I still have them in a rubbermaid container in the garage. Use them as a LAST step sometimes.. but other than that. I found them worthless.