Yeah it is kinda of a funny topic if ya think about it. Seems people should be more concerned with "under" kill than "over" kill.

Personally I think a 440 grain ,flying ashtray, AKA the 12ga slug ,not to mention the "FIFTY CALIBER MAGNUM MUZZLELOADER", is overkill, but many consider them the perfect tools for deer, even though most 12ga sabots deliver much more recoil than a 7mag or 300mag IMO.