Thanks ridge, was justwondering .Never did like the savage and they are right dang proud of the valmet (at least they were of the AK type I have).Can't see $15,000 for a Merkel .

vabyrd,don't want to get into one of those "dog things" here Love to hear the music whether it be deer,coons rabs,or fox.Sweet song when you hear a gang of hounds open up.Don't hunt deer with dogs all of the time.If you are close in your stands no rifles (at least not for me ).Sometimes you are spread out pretty good ,and might be looking over a couple hundred acres need a rifle then .Kinda like the bow thing if you limit yourself to 50 yards then he will step out at 75.[]