Doug says:
"Did we need less deer in Pa?Absolutley" In areas. Wegot it everywhere however. Undefendable blanket slaughter.

"Did some areas get reduced too much?Most likely"

Absolutely. Nearly everywhere in fact.

"but that's easily corrected. "

VERY easily. But isnt being, and isnt gonna be anytime soon, and most likely not at allthanks to pgcs new allies whom they are catering to.

"Did we have a breeding ecology problem?Not in my opinion. "

Agreed. So we both agree pgc lied on that one.

"Are the bucks getting bigger?I have no doubt that a guy has a better chance at killing a noce buck than he did 10 years ago."

Disagree 100%. The recent scoring sessions did not show it. Norhasmost observations. The AVERAGE size ofbucks and percentage of bigger bucks in the herd most definately increased. Thanks to extreme herd reduction, overall numbers of big bucks definately did not. And when speaking of odds improving, they havent.

"Is the regeneration looking better?Absolutely.It's actually amazing in many places."

Perhaps in some of what were the absoluteworst areas. Here there is absolutely no difference.Habitat in2A never was poor in the first place, and many other areas of the state as well,and there was nothing to correct other than to take very cautious preventative measures.--Its not happening here though. The ow herd was reduced by 50+% in this wmu, then Despite claims of stabilization for a few years now, the doe allocations and harvest goalshave been and arehigher than those that were used to actually reduce the herd previously.[:'(]