stalkingbear

In late season hunting,unless the "late rut" is in,all you're going to do by using doe in estrous bleating or doe in estrous pee is going scare them away. Anytime you use something like that out of the actual rut is simply educating them-especially the big bucks that have been around. It MIGHT work 1/4 of the time or less. I've found that using a fawn in distress call instantly turns on the maternal instincts and calls the does in quite a bit of the time,and it works any time-wether the does have ever dropped fawns or not. This is also a useful call to try and relax does that busted you a little but only by sound or sight-once they smell you,game over. I've even had does to come back in a BUNCH of times under these conditions.
Another thing to remember is once you invade a big buck's bedroom,you'd better get him before he realizes you're there,otherwise you've just succeded in making him totally change bedding areas. That's why I don't like to hunt bedding areas because most of the time,all you'll do is push him to another area. Big bucks almost act like a different species. Naturally I'm mostly talking about bowhunting only as when hunting with high power rifle or muzzleloader,you'll be able to get by with more simply due to the longer range they offer and because you don't have to pattern them near as close to be successful.