OMW... Carrying capacity is the key.. my farm has been overbrowsed for years... the deer get so hungry they eat the cat food on the porch... PA is the most backwards place I have ever lived when it comes to change... Gary Alt was right.. and he was not permitted to finish... no one bothered him on bears when he was fixing that and now due to his efforts there are plenty of bear.. Deer get some much attention they caused focus that drove him out.. I don't blame the man...

I have hunted all over and PA is still in Jurasic Park with regards to deer management... Doe reduction is needed.. It helps.. I have seen and harvested better bucks on our farm over the last 6 yrs than ever before.... All the BS about no deer is just that...BS...

Look at states where the deer herd is managed for quality.... or elk in Colorado vs other states Colorado is managed for volume not quality with the exception of a few areas... they got plenty of elk but not a lot of biggins...New Mexico humm.. biggins...

hell you guys re-elected Murtha again... and he called us all rednecks and racists... talk about an idiot... let the biologists do their jobs and deal with it for a few years.. it will be better... Georgia kills a ton of does.. you get7 doe tags and a buck.. .. Alabama look at those rules... we have plenty of deer in PA..