I haven't shot it yet Pat, but the Iceman is on my list. I am in the market for one thing this year, a short smooth bow for the turkey blind. I am hoping the Iceman is it. Just on specs alone, I don't know why anyone would buy an Admiral over an Iceman. Same speed, but Iceman is a single cam. Its almost got to be more smooth. Who knows, I gots 3D season to get through first before I get mine though.