I think we all underestimate our muzzleloaders. I always looked at taking short shots because I was always told that muzzleloaders were good at a 100 yards or less. This year i practiced quite a bit during the summer. I think I must have shot at least 500 or more shots through my traditional and inline combined. I ended up taking a doe at 118 yards with my conventional and I took the one below at 234 yards with my Triumph using a 4 wheeler as a rest. I think our muzzleloaders can shoot much farther than we can, but I bet we all could probably shoot a whole lot better if we spent enough time and money practicing.