man i checked out the ithaca and thats a fine lookin gun but ive never seen one around here. Also i can get ammo in town around here for about $27 a box and theres a bass pro not too far also so im not worried about that. really likin the pump cause ive heard the horror stories behind the autos and considerin my 870 was in the bottom of our boat when it was flipped along with another guys 1100 monday morn i never had a hiccup just shook the water out and rocked on his would shoot but only 3" afterwards. im really gonna hate buyin a new gun to trash in a duck blind lol. i gave $179 for my 870 used and in great shape mechanically few scratches here and there and i take care of it just know its gonna get abused lol. Im really leanin towards gettin a camo bps to combat the rust prob.