The Ithaca's will tend to be a little less than the Remington's. But all you will find will be used one's. You can find used Sp-10's too... The used one's I've seen in decent shap go between 600 for an Ithaca up to 900 for a Remington. An auto will always be higher than a pump simply due to it being more complex of a design with more moving parts, etc, etc...