well the mutts run a nice 8 pt by me and no i didn't get him and some of the mutts growled and stayed around my tree stand fer 10 min or so. [&o]i came home and sighted in my Blk. Dia. got it sighted decent and ran out of my old Goex 3f. so i opened my new can and words can't descibe my dismay, it looked like small coal chunks! [:-][&o]must be 2f in a 3f can. my shoulder is sore and now i have no powder. i have this stuff but i have to sight in again.too sore to go thru it again. []i tried those Pa. conicals out of my Grey Hawk and got 1 ft. group at 25 yds off the bench. tried those hornady blk sabot with xtp 300 mag bullets and broke my plastic Traditions short starter trying to push one down the bore. i finally got it down using the range rod. too hard for that ML to use in it. [:-][:'(]so i am at sq. 1 i will hunt with my CB til my shoulder gets better and try to resight the ML's in again[:@]