Thanks and agreed - good post Schultzy. I like our pastor and he is a really good guy. But sometimes he doesn't have a lot of tact, like in the monthly newsletter, when in his letter to the congregation, he calls out people who bring their kids to Sunday School but don't attend church with them before or afterward, whenever it occurrs that Sunday. He calls them out in front of the whole congregation - not my name mind you - but by chastizing that particular subgroup. That my friend, makes me want to go to church less, not more. And I pretty much lost all respect for the guy for a couple of months until I simmered down.