something really stinks about all this .we all know that deer numbers have gone thru the roof . where i hunt they had to put up deer fence as well , that is part of doing bussness . i would love to really see where this farmer looses 40,000 a year from damage . i have also seen on other sites about this that the mnr has set up a hunter program with over 300 names on it and the farmers say no bodie is hunting on my proporty, if this is the case then those farmers should live with what they got (a S@#$ load of deer). im pretty shure that the deer that are there in the summer are there in early fall. i just think this has something to do with insurance and somebody trying to collect. . also where i hunt they just had to install a beaver fence to stop beavers from eating there orchard.. again it cost the farmer large but there are grants to help offset the cost . I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE PICS AND DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO INSURANCE COMPANY . i might get some heat out of this. but i have seen deer tear the orchard apart . and they let ever body and i mean everybody hunt there they damage to there proporty from huters out weight the damage from the deer

PS grumpy i have it on good authoraty that by next year we will have to pay to hunt in the muzzel loading season . and that will cost us another 32 bucks for one week . so it is just a matter of time i think we should have a latter season from nov to late jan for everybody