Ok now one thing that should not be confused is the moan of a spine shot deer and that of an emotionally excited buck in the presence of a hot doe and other bucks. Yes they sound very similar(or even the same) but obviously they are made under 2 COMPLETELY unrelated circumstances and have absolutely NO connection between each other. The call makers certainly were not trying to mimic the groans of a spine shot deer with their call. So to try and equate that, with the real “growl” doesn’t really make sense. But it is a good way to describe the sound to someone.