Actually, RSB, Gary Alt predicted a noticeable decline in antlered harvest for ONLY ONE YEAR!....Why is it that here we are 5 years into his "new and improved" deer program and buck harvest has steadily declined? What are the advertisements for out of state hunters saying these days? "Come hunt in deer densities less than 5 dpsm, and the lowest buck harvest in 40 years?" bet that will bring the hunters running. Obviously some things just aren't going as he predicted, are they? Not to mention he DID claim that reducing the herd would cause a "more natural breeding ecology" and produce larger bucks than we had previously ....not due to age alone, but improving genetics. This has not been shown to be true, and if it was, wouldn't the PGC be shouting it from the rooftops by now? Also you earlier stated the highest predation levels we have ever seen in the NC counties. Shouldn't we be reducing allocations there, before the coyotes reduce the herd even further, or isn't that a concern? Also, is there one single wildlife agency in the nation other than our own PGC, who is intentionally managing ANY forest at sustained owdd of less than 8 dpsm? Oh yeah....best deer hunting in the nation. Gimme a break. I think out of state license sales would be a good indicator of quality of hunting. Wonder how low ours will be this year? Wonder how high Illinois' will be?