Thanks for all the advice. If I can get out there enough I'll try them all. I'll definately be looking for the oak trees and trails. I'd like to get out there early in the AM.

So a pinch point can be considered an open path that the deer could take but that thins up into something like a bottle neck? Perhaps once I see one it will hit me.

hehe - stalking skills - yeah. and no offense taken - i was walking down the access road this morning doing my best to be quiet and, at least to me, my steps sounded like a bulldozer bashing through the woods.