What ever floats yer boat, ya old coon! Ya got what? 5 deer last year, I got one and a gimme hog. Tell ya what, though, I set up an Excal this spring for turkey w/ peep and pin, dead nuts 20 yds, had no doubt the outcome if I'd a got a shot. Bet ya a nickle against a hole in a donut, the edge of pin base is about a thumbnail thickness shy of end of dovetail on arrow side. They all seem the same to me w/ peep and pin.