Dang Hoyt Viper---that sounds like no joke having pain like that...I went from playing football for 17 years and weightlifting like crazy to wrestling until I was around 30 years old. Lots of old injuries that make my back hurt every now and then...another thing I bought recently is an inversion table. I just have to set it up and I will begin to hang for a few minutes each day to loosen my spine up. Nothing too debilitating now, just want to keep my spine nice and healthy. I do have two bulging discs in my lower two discs and probably some arthritis in my mid-back/neck from all the years of squatting 500 lbs and getting my neck twisted in wrestling.