ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
ORIGINAL: jbowersox
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
ORIGINAL: jbowersox
It makes absolutely no sense to me at all, but that is where it shoots bullet holes in paper. Why? That's what I'm asking.
I'm shooting Easton Excel 340 arrows with 100 gr points. If I move my rest any further to the left, I start getting a left tear.
Are you extremely torquing the bow? Your arrow needs to come out big time. Have someone else shoot it.
This is where paper tuning is actually untuning the bow rather than fixing the shooters issues. IMO
Honestly, I wish it was hand torque. Because then it would be a lot easier for me to fix. Just wondering if you Bowtech guys have heard of this issue before. Guess not. I guess the possibility that a Bowtech/Diamond would have issues is out of the question. I'm sure it is easier to chalk up to the "shooters issues."
Sorry guys, these kind of answers are really frustrating. [:@] Maybe suggesting it as a possibility instead of making the assumption that I was torquing would have been better.
Anyhow, I moved my rest to center and shot around 10 shots and I get a consistent 1" left tear every time. Moved it left, moved it right still a left tear. Move it to where the picture above shows and boom...Consistent bullet holes. Not that I mind all that much, but the only thing I can shoot is feathers because of the contact.
My thinking is that it has something to do with cam lean, which Matt alluded to. Do your Marquis have a little lean to them, because mine is pretty straight. I can't see why that would be a problem, but I'm wondering if at full draw the alignment is off.
Remind me to not attempt to help you in the future!
Dude, Relax! "This is where paper tuning is actually untuning the bow rather than fixing the shooters issues. IMO" I'm just saying I take offense to that. How the heck do you know that it is a "shooter issue" and not an issue with the bow? I'm not trying to make this a big deal, but some of you vets have got to start giving people a little bit of credit and stop jumping to conclusions. Rob, I want your help, because I know you've got tons of helpful things to say, that just wasn't one of them. I don't mind you suggesting that it COULD be a torque issue, that is helpful and I don't mind. But to make that statement as matter of factly as you did is presumptuous and borderline arrogant. I'm not saying you are but that is how that statement sounds. Again, I'm not trying to start something and I appreciate any help you could offer.
Matt, thanks for the tips. You might be right. I messed with my idler lean a little last night and it seems to have gotten slightly better. My tears aren't quite as bad. I will try to look at the idler lean at full draw to see what it is doing. I'm twisting the left side it is causing the tears to get shorter. Like I said I'll take a peak at full draw to see what it is doing. Do you think this could be a product of some string/cable creep? I've got new strings on the way because this one has got quite a few shots on it.
As far as arrows are concerned, I've tried 85, 100, 125 gr tips on the 27.5 Excels. Bareshaft results in same tear. I've also tried some 27.5" Beman ICS 340's with 100gr inserts and 100gr tips. Same tears, slightly worse. Also tried some 26" ICS 400's with 85gr tips. Same tear.