ORIGINAL: gregrn43
I have seen alot of writings in here about how power belts bullets should not be used with over 90grs of powder. I shoot 110grs pyrodex p out of my optima elite 50 cal, so this past weekend i bought some tc shockwaves 250gr superglide bonded spirepoints. I was throughly impressed with the accuracy of these bullets. My groups were within an inch at 100 yards and and when backed off to 200 yards my groups were within a 4 inch group. What i want to know is if anyone out yonder has any experience with how well these bullets perform on deer? Do they fragment at close range? Do they expand well at the longer ranges? Any information that might be useful.
Thanks a bunch
greg
The bonded version is good, from what I have read. I know exactly what you mean by the accuracy of the SW, I shot my only 5 group all touching with that bullet. They are one accurate bullet. As for penetration, expansion and shoot thru the bonded are better in the 250g, because the unbonded 250 fragment bad. The definitive test for me was done by the LeftHand on the Savage forum, here are the results:
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage&action=display&thre ad=6223
his conclusion is the 300g unbonded SW is superior to the 250g bonded. Read all his bullet tests:
Baliistic Gel Tests by thelefthand
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1202260559 (250g bonded SW, your bullet)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1202258389 (250g SST)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1202426992 (250 bonded SW again)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1202426240 (250g SW with 3/4" pine board rib simulation)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1202170673 (.17 Remington 25g HP)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1203185985 (TMZ 245g)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1204079792 (250g SST, 2x4 oak)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?....read=1206923789 (300g bonded SW)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.c.cg....read=1206924145 (300g SST)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.c.cg....read=1206924572 (290g TMZ)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.c.cg....read=1206924946 (300g XTP Mag)
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage&action=display&thre ad=6222 (300g bonded SW)
He tested 250g and 300g bonded and unbonded SW. Bottom line is the 300 unbonded is the best for whitetail based on his tests.
I believe your problem will be with 250g bonded is non-expansion on close rib/bow shots and pencil shoot thru, i.e. shoot all the way thru without expansion. Therefore long trailing job and deer that run 150 and 200 yards, they will die of course, but it is hard to follow a high hit in the lungs with no expansion.
Chap