You know what we need to go with the short mags? Five or six cartridges that fit between the .308 and the 3006, wow. more redundant choices. Well I must say that trying somthing new is fun, however lets not be swayed by sales bull defication. The reason reloading die sales are so high is lack of ammo availability and brass, try ordering some .223 W.S.M. brass. You aint going to find it for about 6 mo!