thanks guys. I'm hoping to add another one to the freezer before gun season so I can be more selective. I was out goose shooting this morning for about an hour. Our limit is five but one landed in an uncut mature oat field and though I looked for longer than I hunted I was unable to find him. I hate when that happens. I guess the foxes and coyoties have to eat also. The retreaver in the picture is one of my 3 hunting dogs (Sasha). Her son (have him also...named bear is in training for geese for he is 2 years old and weighs just over 100 lbs. A little bigger dog for the bigger birds.