This is my one problem with this forum. Everyone just sayssomething is bad or this brand is the best thing since salted butter,but very few people give any of their experience with the products they talk about. I may have gotten the only good NC Star scope made,but I can say that I have used one for three seasons and it has met every expectation. I do not compare it to a $800.00 scope,but then again I shouldn't.I would have been happy with the scope quality at twice the price.