Fellas, we can "what if" this to absolute death. My point is......Don't we have to have a distance that we have predetermined we won't shoot beyond? Obviously if the woods you are in won't accomodate a 30 yard shot you can't do it......But that's got nothing to do with your abilities. I know, without question, that I CAN double lung a deer at 80 yards. But that doesn't mean I'm going to. Why? Because I can't hit that circle under "controlled" conditions 100% of the time. Jeff, you're absolutely right about things going wrong in the heat of the moment, which is why we need to have that distance determined before we ever step foot in the woods.

Doesn't there have to be a predetermined number? And to determine that number, don't we have to define it?