I don' t like to give up either, but man when that alarm goes off at 4 am anymore, it' s takes a lot of debating within my own head to go back out and do it again. I hunted for an hour this morning and I was ready to call it a day.........but no, my dumb a** stuck it till the very last minute until I had to go to work. I thought I was smarter.....[8D]