You can always get a bullet mold and a hand sizer from Lee molds with bulk sabots of harvestor brand from Midsouth. Use wheel weights for plinking and pure lead for hunting and the cost can be cut to a fraction of these fancy bullets. I used to use these and they ddid the job and were quite accurate the only real draw back is they did not seem to shoot well over a hundred gr of RS, I have not tried them with 777 or BH. Lee