thanks for the input guys, you know, i wondered about my feet sweating, ive always been a rocky boots goretex guy, i was afraid if i bought the rubber boots, #1 my feet would sweat #2 they would eat my socks all day, which would drive me freakin crazy...#3 would they rub and hurt my ankles, and feet, i guess ill go try the mucks and the lacrosse... thanks again...