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Old 05-19-2003 | 01:07 PM
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Default RE: P&Y and 65% let off?

your first post is out their man! lets start talking dates of these things you want to outlaw as you say.
Well, at least you don' t call yourself " LilReader" . Try rereading my post. Try rereading both posts where I state that P&Y can make whatever rules they want; they may find more resistance given the seeming obsession with this particular rule. Also, did I ever say I wanted to " outlaw" any of the other practices or pieces of equipment? Nope. Again, reread what was written. I am simply pointing out that P&Y' s seeming obsession with let-off as a line in the sand issue is rather strange, even comical. As for the rest of your...rambling post...not sure what GPS and compass reading had to do with anything we are discussing here either, but...hey, it' s a free country, dude! [&:]

Kinda hard to follow what point it is you are trying to make here. On one hand, you seem to be saying all of these high-tech advances have been around for decades, but on the other hand saying that such advances are contributing to hunter " laziness" :
Lets get real folks. Their needs to be some kind of marker put on just pure lazyness. Hunting is just that, hunting.
I suppose I can counter that with another argument in the vein you seemed to be on:

HUNTERS HAVE FOR YEARS SOUGHT TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESSOF THEIR EQUIPMENT AND TODAY' S ADVANCES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A CONTINUATION OF A PROCESS THAT BEGAN THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.

My point is not that any advance that comes along should just be waived in. My real point is again... WHY of the hundreds of advances that have made todays bows and arrows more efficient and effective, why single out let-off as the issue to make a stand on? As to your reasoning about crossbows...
But where do you draw the line in the sand where the ONLY difference is DRAWING THE BOW from it being a xbow.
There is no comparison...none! Different aiming, still have to hold a bow with >65% let-off at full draw...too many differences to even discuss.

My last post was more in response to AK' s post:
The Pope & Young club today has mearly drawn a line in the sand as to how far they are willing to accept technology. If not at 65% letoff, then where? 80%? 90%? 100%? 400fps? 500fps? At what point is modern equipment no longer recognizable as bows?
AK, I don' t disagree with that. It seems odd that, given all of the other advances in bow technology, improved arrows, composite materials, etc. that P&Y now finally wakes up and says" Wow! Technology is really making an impact! We need to do something!" Higher let-off doesn' t make a bow a virtual crossbow anymore than a scope on a high powered rifle makes it a smart bomb. This whole issue reminds me of the story of Fred Bear' s one time refusal to manufacture compound bows once they became popular, since he felt they weren' t " really bows" . His attitude changed over time...amazing what a colossal drop in sales can do to make one reconsider.
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