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Old 08-28-2008 | 09:58 PM
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I have two of them, both stainless. They are in my opinion and excellent ML. They do have some issues but nothing that is not easily overcome.

They will shoot anything that will fitdown the barrel accurately. Both of my guns a sabot shooters, although they will shoot Dan's 460 grainBull Shops pretty darn well also. There is a replacemet spring available from Wolff Springs for the Model 700ML, which is a much better spring.

The two biggest issues with them are the factory hammer spring is weak and will cause you a misfire if shooting #11's at some point. The second is the cleaning of the bolt. The internal hammer spring must be cleaned and taken care of. The Remington 700 bolt tool makes this job very easy.

If your Remington came with a factory 209 nipple - I would suggest you dump it and get a new conversion from Cabelas. This conversion is made in Canada and comes with all the instructions for changing it out + a new spring.

I have changed my load for these two guns in the past couple of years. For years I was shooting 100 grains of T7-2f, a year or so back I started shootingSpeer Gold Dot bullets, they seemed to like to shot faster for better accuracy so I ended shooting 110 grains of T7. Then I discovered that the Nosler Partitions I shoot for hunting also do not mind the 110 grain load... so that has become a standard for me. The other load I shoot for peepers and small game is a 200 grain 40 cal XTP - that is a real fun load to shoot.. little recoil and one heck of a fast bullet and by ML standards pretty darn flat.

If you use a scopeyou will need some sort of scope protection for the bottom of the scope above the breech or make a weather shield for it. I use AA 20 guage shotgun cases cut to fiton the bolt.

Great gun - but once you get shooting - you will be sorry...

Speaking of shooting have you shot ML'sbefore? I ask because there is a very easy way to get started - it is a little more expensive that shooting normal - but it will get you started safely?

Just so you know - you will need either a MMP HPH-24 sabot or a regular Harvester - either the short black or the long petal. If you decide to go with a 44 cal then you will need a green 44 cal sabot either a MMP or a Harvester. I am partial to the black 50 cal sabots and proectiles cause that is what I shoot... although if you are after deer Speer makes a 44 cal Gold Dot that really reminds me of a 30-30 bullet and they have worked well on deer for years.

I am not sure and have tested the rifle yet with BH-209, the new powder, I would not even consider it with a Remington 209 nipple but I really am considering it with the Cabelas nipple - I know it will work but I need to check it yet to see if I can keep the shotgun primer in the nipple most of the time, even if it does not, with a copper weather shield evrybody and thing wuld be safe.

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