TJD, your post wasn' t mean spirited at all and I wasn' t implying thatin any way. I was just afraid that this post was going in that argumentitive direction. The weather here has been crummy for the past week and I am getting sick of it , plus last night Dale Jr. ( at least Jeffy didn' t win, well at least as a driver) got knocked out in that stupid pile up and the Winston so I guess I was just kind of in a bad mood and not really wanting to see a big argument among fellow bowhunters today. I am not pointing any fingers at anyone at all. I just didn' t want to see a big bash fest start thats all. Sorry about that. I am in a better mood now so you can all have it out now Just kidding.