The only time and I mean the only time I will should shoulder is if I have a 160grain 30-06 nosler partition loaded up. I have shot alot of big Kansas deer with this set up in my 06 at 200 yards the bullet will go through the close side shoulder through the vitals and then go through the off side shoulder. Then at that point the bullet normally will stop right against the hide on the off side shoulder. This is with a rifle, a hot hand load and if that gets the job done a arrow in no way can get the job done.