you guys are awesome! i have been shooting at 35 yards for a couple of days and was getting pretty good at that range. i did what you all told me to do i spray painted a quater size dot on the back side of my target floated my 40 yard pin put pressure on my releaseand was 2 inches to the right. by the time i had shot my first dozen i would say my groups were on average of 4 inches alot better then i was at before. i had this thread setting beside me while i was outside and would re read different parts of it after every group of three. now i will be shooting more arrows each night for sure. thanks to all for your help over this past week im not gunna settle for 4 inches im gunna do better i just wanted to let you all know that you did make a difference in my shooting THANKS ALOT!