I have had the lone wolf climber. I hated that stand I had a lot of problems with it slipping etc A buddy of mine had the perminent stand by lone wolf it is a good stand. I just dont like there clibers. If you ever decide on a cliber I would suggest the ole man I love the one I have. Its ver comfortable. As far as cost of stands you could find cheapers stands that are as light as the lone wolf for about half the cost. I purchased 2 permenant stands last fall for 30.00 a peice from bass pro or cabalas cant remember. but these are very comfortable stands and very light. When I purchase tree stands I look for comfort #1 secondley I look at weight of the stand. Then last price. What I would do if I was you is go to your local sporting goods store and look at what kind of stands they have. you can get a better idea of what opptions you like this wayversus just seeing the picture. To me weight and comfort are #1. WELL GOOD LUCK.