I do group tune there Rack. I think I explained that. Maybe not. If I didnt, I figured it was just common knowledge. Forget about bare shafting Rack ? Thats probably why most people have problems getting both to group together. They look at the chart, buy an arrow off the shelf that fits there fancy, and then try to tune the arrow to the bow. They get good holes, which can be acheived with near perfect form at ten ft, and horribly over or underspined arrows. Paper doesnt prove squat. Its a starting point. Then they wonder why the two never hit the same.You gotta tune the bow to the arrow. All I can tell you is when Im done they snuggle right up with f.pts when Im done group tuning bhds. I end up refletching when Im group tuning bhds.because I enjoy seeing those bad boys group tight. Is this the right way. Dont know, but it works for me and those ole bhds. just keep going where Im aiming if I do my part correctly and the deer keep dropping. Two inch groups with f.pts out to fifty on my good days, and the occassional robin hood,which I feel is as good as Im capable. I see no reason to switch. Middle of the road tuning my a$$. Maybe a true guru could tune it even better, and shave another quarter inch off the a.m.o.a, but I dont feel my shooting abilty would know the difference. Im mentally as good as Ill get.You come up with a better way that gives me even more fletch cutting accuracy and Im all ears. Rack I am not trying to argue. I just disagree. As Len stated earlier, thats whats so great about archery. There are many ways to acheive the same end.

Tfox, good point, but exactly how do you acheive the exact same f.o.c. Different arrow length for hunting and target? Id like to see some f.p.s. comparisins on the two heads, and find out just how much speed is shed. Maybe one of these days Ill get bored and try and destroy my chrony. Another thing Ive seen with some good target shooters who have a hard time getting the two to group together, is theve set their bows up for a high left tear which supposedly stabilizes better. It dont work with bhds.