I have to agree with you bluebird2, I really do not like the restrictions, and all my hunting party either. We have hunted PA for many years before them, and liked the idea of not having to look so hard for 3 pts. on one side where we hunt. It is very hard when they are running by you to count to see if it is legal. Even standing still I lost a chance at one last year. I have hunted my cousins farm for over 20 years. I am from central NY. When I go there I hunt for the meat, yes I know, just shoot the does. Many times I have had easier shots at the young bucks instead of a doe. The meat tastes so good I don't care I just want to take meat home.