thanks alot. i do have a grip similar to that even tho my middle ring and pinky are kinda more straight out. i shot just a little bit ago and my first group was about 4 inches and it got larger from there i didnt shot that much but i realize i need all the practice i can get. i dont shot more then about 15-20 arrows per night as i have been advised it might help me shot better.

thank you again i was told to try to shot at 50 yards and that will make my 40 yds easier. i only want a 3 pins on my sight and i dont have a straight flat place to shot a clean 50 yards. i will try 35 tommorow for sure i never thought of that. its worth a try,maybe then like you said i can work up to 40. i want to be confident in a 40 yard shot this year if i can get there.... im gunna try.