I don't know that the hunters ed thing ever really influenced things withmy boys too much. I mean we hunted large tracts of private land and they were going to hunt when they were ready anyways. It was just maybe plus or minus a year or two, and they weren't far off. Not like I dropped them off in a pasture and drove 5 miles away.

The draw weight restriction? Not sure I'm a very big fan of lifting that. Just like I don't think a .223 or 22-250 is a good "kids gun" for deer. Sure you can do it, but you are asking for trouble. I told my boys they could shoot deer when they could shoot a rifle that would take care of a big old buck even if their shot was less than perfect. A .257 or 7mm-08 doesn't kick that much harder and they are one heck of alot better on deer if you didn't placethe shotright. So maybe lifting the draw weight restriction would be okay on turkeys, but I just really don't agree with it on deer. Those bows may be just as fast, but they aren't pushing the same arrow weight with the same amount of penetration. Nothing in life is free, and you can't get 50 lbs of KE out of a 30 lb draw bow. It violates the laws of physics.

My youngest has a Browning Micro Midas, and it is a dandy bow. But laws or not, he won't get to poke a deer with it untill he can pull 40 lbs or better and can shoot good enough to do the job right. It has 30 lb limbs on it now, and in my mind it just isn't enough. I know lots of people disagree with me, and that is okay. I just want to be sure before they start slinging arrows.