The easy way in I could walk it with my eyes closed, but to avoid where they are bedding and snacking on the white oak acorns I have to go around my ass to get to my elbow. These are just like a thumb tack that has a reflector on them. These are virgin woods too so I doubt there areany in there already. If I could go the easy way I would, but it would kill the hunt. The hard way is like a mile through hardwoods, briars, creeks and holleys. I figured for 3 bucks they would lead the way so I wouldnt be walking in circles trying to find mystand. Thanks for the input. I was hoping that I wouldnt be reading that they suck and I wasted my lunch money.