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Old 05-08-2003 | 11:31 AM
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Len in Maryland
 
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Default RE: Arrow Flight different with broadheads vs. field points

Good post, PW. We can agree totally on this ' approach' .

The original post was:
Mainah77
Why is it I can shoot consistant groups at 25 yards with 100 grain field points, but when I put on my 100 grain broadheads my arrows are not hitting the same as the arrows with the field points?

Thoughts?

I would like to be able to shoot the same with both tips.
We were requested by this hunter to answer this question based on normal hunting criteria at 25 yards. With this in mind, and not 60-70 yard shots, I hope we' ve given him enough information to try to achieve a better tune on his equipment/form. And, " to be able to shoot the same with both tips."

That' s the neat thing about this sport; there are so many aspects and differing approaches to those many aspects. When Mr. Ragsdale states,
" ethical hunters will either have 2 bows ready for the 2 jobs, or 2 sights for their bow, one zeroed in with the broadheads and another zeroed in for the fieldpoints."
, I have a little problem with that. I can read that as though it says that you' re not an ' ethical' hunter unless you have 2 of something. While I can agree with him to an extent, I have to take into consideration the average hunter, like the original poster and those who I see walking through my doors - one bow, one sight, one set of arrows, and wanting to do the best he/she can with limited resources. I don' t believe Mr. Ragsdale meant to call this hunter unethical; but, with this and many, many cases like it, that could be interpreted.

From the beginning you will notice that I have stated tolerance and kept away from the absolute. In the case of Mr. Ragsdale, he relates more to absolute because he is conditioned that way and can afford that privilege. I don' t want to loose sight that the majority of archers are bowhunters and that I should better understand their needs and perspectives. The original poster is my case in point.

Arthur, you' re right; but, you' re also relating this situation to tournament shooting of BHs at " 60-70 yards" much the way I think Mr. Ragsdale does. I also agree with you about the nock situation. My point, however, is to set things in perspective for that ' average' hunter with limited resources and capabilities. Heck, you' ll even get differences with different lighting, temperature, and other natural elements. Isn' t this why we should teach everyone to limit their shots on animals to as close as they can get them?

PW hit the nail on the head with his " middle of the road" term. With this in mind, the average hunter can achieve a relatively same POI with his FTs and BHs at conservative hunting distances. Suggesting that he should consider less by arbitrarily moving sights/pins, and again that' s based on tolerances, is really not in my teaching philosophy. Mainah77 wanted " to shoot the same with both tips." I think that' s possible given his situation and with him now understanding what tolerances he should expect.

All in all, I hope many have learned from this exchange of thoughts, ideas, and data. I know I always benefit by this sort of dialogue.
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