I don't care for 'em as they don't fit my hand very well. God guns I'm sure just not for me. I always gotta ask though...If these guns are so fantastic and thier owners saying how great they are, I wonder if thier only clamoring over the rollmark. These are simply a HS2000 with a different rollmark, differnt marketing name, that's it. Nobody cared at all when they were marked HS2000 but change that name on the side to Soringfield Armory and suddenly they're the greatest little pistol ever prodcued. Just shows what brand will do. Wonder how great a Hi-Point becomes if they were marked "Glock"?