I am with Len on that! If the Pros are publically calling them " Redneck loops" , and " dissing" every other archer on the planet except those that shoot " their" style of loop, then they aren' t very " Professional" to anyone but themselves, IMHO.

However--

I can see Dave calling it that in fun with friends tho, as he likes to bust chops as much as the next guy. Seeing as he lives in the hills of Maine, " Redneck" is calling the kettle black some, isn' t it? He puts his pants on the same as everyone else when he gets up in the morning too, no matter how many titles he has won. I think Dave is a great guy, and feel that he may have just been " busting" in good fun with no malice meant towards anyone.

Yep, I also firmly believe that that little " extra" is of little consequence. I have run my loops from one end of the spectrum to the other in the quest for the " perfect one, and can say that you DO have it right IMO with the double tied-in noksets above and below with a slight air space, but an extra 1/8" of material under the arrow nock only serves to bring the release down MAYBE half of that, and if you can visibly notice the difference in arrow flight and nock travel from MAYBE 1/32-1/16" of movement in release position, then you' re a much better man than I am. The only time you can readily notice change in flight and nock travel is when you change the position to completely under the arrow, or if you are " cinching the arrow" (varying flight, same nock travel) with a loop when tied over and above the arrow.

Other than that, shoot ' em the way you like ' em, there are no " miracle" loops as long as you have sufficient clearance and no interferrence from pressure.

I also agree about the slip-on loops. P.I.T.A. IMO. You have to yank the string to get them on, and who wants to do that? Tie-ons are much simpler. Good shooting, Pinwheel 12