dont think we are making the massey shoot either. Was going to and hit the tal first thing friday morning with a couple buddies. I was a lil shocked when I found they couldnt cast let alone of the gear and at 100 bucks a pop from here to talkeetna with charter up, not to mention shoot etc, we put the lid on that idea. So its another year I am out for the massey shoot........watchout grayling/burbot [>:]