This thing is ridiculous, another pointless product that sells I guess. And look at the dadgum price!!! You gotta be kidding me, for a dadgum strap?!?! If the guy in the advertising picture was sittin in a stand it would be nothin but a safety harness. Take the seat away and I could prop my feet on the tree at an angle like that, and I guarantee you I could swing around a tree if I had to also. Why in the world would you need to swing around the tree though? I shot two does in one day last year during gun season by turning around and sittin on the front rail of my climber. Made the shots almost directly behind the tree. You would have to pay me to use this thing. This product is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen, IN MY OPINION.