I have a sony dcr sr 200 which is HDD and they are on ebay cheap now. It has a 1 lux rating and films pretty darn well for a consumer cam. I will use it for inbetween little things now, and I take it scouting with me all the time. Its light small and puts out a picture in low light which doesnt get too grainy. Check them out, as I can assure you the price is right for what you are getting into. Best of luck.

Jason