HEy thanks MT, sounds good I think we' ll be up to it, I told the wife that 1 week after Turkey is over with( May 15 here) every night she needs to remind me about the treadmill, If I say no she is supposed to say Montana. I think that will work. Plus an early rilfe hunt would be nice, we here never hunt the rut. SO every advantage I can get I can use. Bagged 1 elk since ' 96, Either bad luck, one got stolen, or the last chance I had all I can figure is that it was windier down where he was than where I was shootin' from. But I can tell this is THE YEAR.