Well excuse me for living. I just reported what I had heard, don' t know any details on it, in the course of the year can' t point you to the culprits. I do recall they reported they had no problem dispatching the hogs. It wasn' t " my" test, and I am not advertising such. It just popped in my mind as I was typing when the subject of penetration came up. I suppose if you hear somebody using whatever heads you use doing it you won' t buy those either. Every head out there has somebody posting something about it, you guys are going to be kept busy switching. Too much of a lynch mob mentality here, internet sites are pretty wild. Move on to the next guy, I have work to do.