Thank you very much for your summation. The bowtechs are all but out of the equation, the closest dealer is nearly 35 miles and when I puchased my diamond he was less than a pleasure to work with. I'm a short draw, maybe 27.5-28, so I need something that has some snap. I'm a newbie to the bow "buying" scene, the diamond was a budget bow. I've got into 3-D shooting and I find myself shooting alot. My diamond maxed out at 68 lbs shooting my hunting set-up wtih 75 grn tips is pushing the graph at 269. I'd like to shoot a lighter poundage and be somewhere around 280-290 with a hunting set up. I'm a pretty stout guy and the 68+ drawing doesn't bother me now, but I'd like to continue this for along time.